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07-20 11:35 AM
It's more of a motivation to get up and do something. How much was collected? I know many ppl contributed but the contribution was very less...so u shut up ur hole or whatever language u prefer to use at ur home. My point was to do rather than posting. If u didn't get that, sorry.
smuggymba,
Do you have any numbers for advocacy effort participation in terms of EB2 vs EB3 ? You and some EB2 members on this forum seems to be suggesting that they are getting GCs faster because they did some outstanding effort in terms of IV advocacy effort. Would you mind sharing some evidence in case you have some ?
I didn't see EB2 guys overcrowding that event. There were well meaning, sincere members from both EB2 as well EB3.
Please stop lecturing EB3 guys. If pappu or someone from leadership want to lecture us, it is fine. Not every jack and jill on this forum should lecture us.
smuggymba,
Do you have any numbers for advocacy effort participation in terms of EB2 vs EB3 ? You and some EB2 members on this forum seems to be suggesting that they are getting GCs faster because they did some outstanding effort in terms of IV advocacy effort. Would you mind sharing some evidence in case you have some ?
I didn't see EB2 guys overcrowding that event. There were well meaning, sincere members from both EB2 as well EB3.
Please stop lecturing EB3 guys. If pappu or someone from leadership want to lecture us, it is fine. Not every jack and jill on this forum should lecture us.
thepaew
12-17 01:31 PM
Like many others on these forums, I have given up significant opportunities because I believed mistakenly that the GC mess would be cleared up in 2-3 years. Sometimes that does lead to extreme frustration - My wife often jokes that when I do actually receive my GC, I will have lost a very convenient excuse that the lack of one is holding me back. :-)
To those who are starting down this path, I have this piece of unsolicited advice. If you feel that you are depressed and this is affecting your health and/or your family, it may be best to move on - the world is a big place, full of opportunity; opportunities that cannot be quantified by an O*NET job code. Enjoy everyday while you can - you only live once.
To those who are starting down this path, I have this piece of unsolicited advice. If you feel that you are depressed and this is affecting your health and/or your family, it may be best to move on - the world is a big place, full of opportunity; opportunities that cannot be quantified by an O*NET job code. Enjoy everyday while you can - you only live once.
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desi3933
07-10 02:55 PM
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My question to you was if no H1B is "permanent" (as you opine), then how can you prove that the AC20 job on H1B is or isn't "permanent?" So if that job is not "permanent," how do you convince/mention that in as RVE-EVL?
Because Future GC job could be same job on H-1B, only difference being on H-1B your job has fixed end date (noted by I-94), and GC job has no fixed end date, hence permanent. It does not make that current job on H-1B permanent.
Temp Job and Permannet Job can have same job title and job duties. Just like contract job and full-time job can have same job title and job duties, but one is employee of the company and other one is not.
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My question to you was if no H1B is "permanent" (as you opine), then how can you prove that the AC20 job on H1B is or isn't "permanent?" So if that job is not "permanent," how do you convince/mention that in as RVE-EVL?
Because Future GC job could be same job on H-1B, only difference being on H-1B your job has fixed end date (noted by I-94), and GC job has no fixed end date, hence permanent. It does not make that current job on H-1B permanent.
Temp Job and Permannet Job can have same job title and job duties. Just like contract job and full-time job can have same job title and job duties, but one is employee of the company and other one is not.
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StarSun
02-23 08:43 AM
Take part in something positive and help IV help you. Join the advocacy efforts - Register (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=80&Itemid=36)
apahilaj
11-25 08:51 PM
Apahilaj,
I got the SR response letter saying I contacted them and they are responding by saying that I should wait for the FP if I have not received one yet. So basically I am where I was 2 months ago.
If you read my earlier posts, I did have doubts that FP and NC may have some connection together.
But I think this seems more of a glitch in the TSC system in generation of FP. I mean either its NC or glitch that is causing this delay. Anyway, the NSC at least generates one for you after you speak to an IO. We are unfortunate in that also.
Dingudi,
In your response letter, did they anywhere mention about biometrics or finger printing notice specifically? In my letter, they did not mention about finger printing at all...All they said that the decision on my case has been delayed due to ongoing background check...I am not sure if they even knew that I had opened up the SR for not receiving FP notice.
Yeah, I was thinking about your earlier post last night when I was reading the response letter..:) But I just can not subscribe to the idea that FP and name checks are even remotely connected...
Well, we just have to wait and watch...good luck to all the fellow sufferrers..
I got the SR response letter saying I contacted them and they are responding by saying that I should wait for the FP if I have not received one yet. So basically I am where I was 2 months ago.
If you read my earlier posts, I did have doubts that FP and NC may have some connection together.
But I think this seems more of a glitch in the TSC system in generation of FP. I mean either its NC or glitch that is causing this delay. Anyway, the NSC at least generates one for you after you speak to an IO. We are unfortunate in that also.
Dingudi,
In your response letter, did they anywhere mention about biometrics or finger printing notice specifically? In my letter, they did not mention about finger printing at all...All they said that the decision on my case has been delayed due to ongoing background check...I am not sure if they even knew that I had opened up the SR for not receiving FP notice.
Yeah, I was thinking about your earlier post last night when I was reading the response letter..:) But I just can not subscribe to the idea that FP and name checks are even remotely connected...
Well, we just have to wait and watch...good luck to all the fellow sufferrers..
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mchatrvd
09-11 04:26 PM
The thing is that I feel bad for IV when people start screaming and yelling at them. IV is not responsible for passing these legislation. They don't even realize that if there was no IV, July fiasco would have resulted in lot of people not getting their 485 filed. So many people would have so far not been able to use AC21 and change jobs. They are just sitting and posting out their suggestions. IV needs members who can help them in their cause and strengthen the organization. They have no right to yell or scream despite not even contributing a single minute to the cause. I still believe that we better have couple of members who we know and can count to volunteer rather than a blog where people throw fancy suggestions and vent out. That is the reason for me being advocating for paid site. If not paid, then activate membership through state chapters. Have state leadership activate their membership based on their contribution for this blog. At least we know that they are contributing to the cause by money or time. I am seriously disgusted by seeing so many irrelevant postings on this site which has nothing to do with immigration and people spending hours blogging, rather than contributing couple of minutes with their state chapters.
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rkg000
07-20 11:58 AM
Don't make stupid statements like this. It goes to show your intelligence and that you are an instigator. With statements like that you will alienate EB3 more. BTW, I contributed to DC advocacy and many other EB3s also did the same. That money apparently seemed to have have helped EB2 and not EB3.
Regarding you comment on action, many IV leaders are EB3.
I am not sure your point will be taken seriously by anyone with this kind of language. If you didn't mean to be taken seriously, then well... you are right on point. You all must have read the thread EB2-EB3 predictions. The thread is most popular for the very reason that members refrained from such language.
Coming to this thread, I empathize EB3 position. I guess I would feel the same if spillover was helping EB2 all along and recently changed to help another category. So, how do you get everyone to support any initiative that will surely hurt the other half.
Since Spillover rules are left to USCIS for interpretation, whatever way they interpret, it is sure to hurt one or the other category. So, why not concentrate on action items which unites us all, rather than dividing us, like VISA recapture, abolishing country quota, not using quota against dependents etc. Think about it.
Regarding you comment on action, many IV leaders are EB3.
I am not sure your point will be taken seriously by anyone with this kind of language. If you didn't mean to be taken seriously, then well... you are right on point. You all must have read the thread EB2-EB3 predictions. The thread is most popular for the very reason that members refrained from such language.
Coming to this thread, I empathize EB3 position. I guess I would feel the same if spillover was helping EB2 all along and recently changed to help another category. So, how do you get everyone to support any initiative that will surely hurt the other half.
Since Spillover rules are left to USCIS for interpretation, whatever way they interpret, it is sure to hurt one or the other category. So, why not concentrate on action items which unites us all, rather than dividing us, like VISA recapture, abolishing country quota, not using quota against dependents etc. Think about it.
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07-05 06:02 PM
Dude a stinking dead fish could be considered a bio-weapon :D
Well atleast that gets the message through ;)
Well atleast that gets the message through ;)
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man-woman-and-gc
09-15 12:42 PM
My suggestion, please do not make the phone number and email ids available in public. Many (like me) may not like any/everyone knowing my phone number and email id.
we could just hide these two columns... just a thought.
Done.
The columns exist but will be hidden.
we could just hide these two columns... just a thought.
Done.
The columns exist but will be hidden.
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pappu
09-01 09:18 AM
Everyone getting receipt notices, and not coming to the rally, (not coming to the rally -most on tracker threads), please at least consider contributing to the rally once you get your notice or FP done or get EAD!. The rally cost is huge and we can do much more if people can contribute generously.
We helped you get to the stage so that everyone can file I485s. It pains us in the core team see how our members who used to tell us all the time to at least allow them to file I485 and then they will wholeheartedly take part and support IV have turned their backs on us now. With our work and victory in Visa bulletin fiasco, we even answered people who used to ask us for our achievements before they could contribute.
Now it is your opportunity to deliver.
We helped you get to the stage so that everyone can file I485s. It pains us in the core team see how our members who used to tell us all the time to at least allow them to file I485 and then they will wholeheartedly take part and support IV have turned their backs on us now. With our work and victory in Visa bulletin fiasco, we even answered people who used to ask us for our achievements before they could contribute.
Now it is your opportunity to deliver.
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simple1
05-02 01:15 AM
Thanks to basha for asking question to an attorney. Hopefully Ron answers it.
Thanks to vbkris77 for posting it in this thread.
VB Core,
Is it possible to get a quick clarification from a forum-attorney ?
I saw someone already asking this question in Ron Gotcher's immigration forum.
http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7988
That is a good thing. Lets keep our fingers crossed.
Thanks to vbkris77 for posting it in this thread.
VB Core,
Is it possible to get a quick clarification from a forum-attorney ?
I saw someone already asking this question in Ron Gotcher's immigration forum.
http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7988
That is a good thing. Lets keep our fingers crossed.
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08-18 02:23 PM
We don't have much options. Let us jointly send letters to Ombudsman and USICS director and hope something will come out of it.
The other day you spent the entire day answering every question(s) people had. I even told my wife that our good friend is going to take all our worries out pretty soon. EB2 will no longer going accept porting so we will go faster and then guess what you didn't even file the law suit yet....you let us down!!
I have a humble suggestion for you, please concentrate on your work and read some books on ethics and leave the GC processing to CIS.
The other day you spent the entire day answering every question(s) people had. I even told my wife that our good friend is going to take all our worries out pretty soon. EB2 will no longer going accept porting so we will go faster and then guess what you didn't even file the law suit yet....you let us down!!
I have a humble suggestion for you, please concentrate on your work and read some books on ethics and leave the GC processing to CIS.
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dummgelauft porting is happening and you may be correct about non IT companies and big IT companies being unwilling to port.
I can recollect 7 people immediately of which 1 is a genuine EB2 , 1 was a genuine Eb3 (2003) and remaining 3 have done labor substitution in Eb3 , 2 in Eb2 with dates ranging from 2002-2004 during the July Fiasco. 2 Eb2 people already got their GC's.
The other 3 people now have at least 3 years exp from 2007 --> 2010. Making them eligible for Eb2 ( with a variety of education + work exp combinations).
Lucky people are the ones, who could manage to get labor substitution during June-July 2007, got EAD's within 6 months, had the flexibility these 3 years and are now capable of porting to Eb2.
In the end it boils down to how resourceful one is and adapts to the situation and able to make things better for themselves. Same goes for L1 -> EB1 route. Porting by a person who has a substitute labor of 2002 ( in July 2007) will also effect a genuine EB3 application from 2006, as they are moving ahead even in the Eb3 queue.
Porting is here to stay , the only hope for people is to combine efforts and try to follow up on the various proposals ( STEM Exemption, visa recapture, counting dependents in family quota, and provide relief to people by at least letting them file 485's without waiting for dates to become current )
I can recollect 7 people immediately of which 1 is a genuine EB2 , 1 was a genuine Eb3 (2003) and remaining 3 have done labor substitution in Eb3 , 2 in Eb2 with dates ranging from 2002-2004 during the July Fiasco. 2 Eb2 people already got their GC's.
The other 3 people now have at least 3 years exp from 2007 --> 2010. Making them eligible for Eb2 ( with a variety of education + work exp combinations).
Lucky people are the ones, who could manage to get labor substitution during June-July 2007, got EAD's within 6 months, had the flexibility these 3 years and are now capable of porting to Eb2.
In the end it boils down to how resourceful one is and adapts to the situation and able to make things better for themselves. Same goes for L1 -> EB1 route. Porting by a person who has a substitute labor of 2002 ( in July 2007) will also effect a genuine EB3 application from 2006, as they are moving ahead even in the Eb3 queue.
Porting is here to stay , the only hope for people is to combine efforts and try to follow up on the various proposals ( STEM Exemption, visa recapture, counting dependents in family quota, and provide relief to people by at least letting them file 485's without waiting for dates to become current )
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vengaiah
04-29 06:55 PM
I thinks EB3 INDIA will move between 9/11/2001 to JAN 2004 , because after 9/11 probably few people applied for GreenCrd because of market condition, even h1b quotas are not used for 2002 and 2003, i applied for h1b on 2004 April , no surprise the quota available because of market condition.
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Edison99
08-23 03:01 PM
Hi MeraNaamJoker,
First of all congrats man!
You experience gave so much hope on my green card process�
Buddy,
This is an ultimate test from above on our patience.
I waited for a very long 10+ yrs for my process to complete. Will you beleive that during the first 3 yrs of my application all the categories were current. The very next month when my labor got approved it went to retrogression. Before I got greened 2 weeks back, the dates became current for 3 times. I missed all 3 times. Last one was becuase of idiot lawyer (her firm is one of the largest immigration law firms in the entire country) sat on it and did not provide a required paper work.
After that the wait got extended for another 3 more yrs. finally got it on early part of this month. With the same process I was laid off once. Ported the process out. Then second company tried to ditch me the process. Ran away from their with the process. Got really lucky. From 3rd company I was forced to take a package and leave. Got lucky there too to port the case for a record 3rd time. Filed AC21 with the 4th company. Later filed I 140 again (i don't know why. The lawyer of the cmpany insisted). Got that once also approved.
Spend almost 38,000.00 dollars in all these various processes. After all these waited for almost another 2 yrs again and finally it arrived.....
So each story is different. Each has got its own colors. I have worst situations than mine. Just hang in there buddy. Your turn is round the corner. It is on its way.
First of all congrats man!
You experience gave so much hope on my green card process�
Buddy,
This is an ultimate test from above on our patience.
I waited for a very long 10+ yrs for my process to complete. Will you beleive that during the first 3 yrs of my application all the categories were current. The very next month when my labor got approved it went to retrogression. Before I got greened 2 weeks back, the dates became current for 3 times. I missed all 3 times. Last one was becuase of idiot lawyer (her firm is one of the largest immigration law firms in the entire country) sat on it and did not provide a required paper work.
After that the wait got extended for another 3 more yrs. finally got it on early part of this month. With the same process I was laid off once. Ported the process out. Then second company tried to ditch me the process. Ran away from their with the process. Got really lucky. From 3rd company I was forced to take a package and leave. Got lucky there too to port the case for a record 3rd time. Filed AC21 with the 4th company. Later filed I 140 again (i don't know why. The lawyer of the cmpany insisted). Got that once also approved.
Spend almost 38,000.00 dollars in all these various processes. After all these waited for almost another 2 yrs again and finally it arrived.....
So each story is different. Each has got its own colors. I have worst situations than mine. Just hang in there buddy. Your turn is round the corner. It is on its way.
sheela
08-01 05:02 PM
I looked at both the service center webpages(texas & nebraska) & I-485 application has to be sent to Nebraska only.I do not understand now why they are transferring the application from nebraska to Texas
if I-140 is approved at Texas.
Has anyone have any idea?
My I-140 mailed/delivered at TSC was approved in 20 days (2/2006). Attorney mailed AOS at NSC (delivered on 7/2/07: he said all EB applications has to go to NSC irrespective of the center of I-140 appoval). I donot understand if it is to be transferred to TSC why it should have been invited at NSC-may be receipt #s are generated at NSC and cases are transferred electronically to different centers for handling depending upon work load of the center. NSC may be the monitoring center. Going by discussions here it looks like TSC is quick and fast. Any guesses?
if I-140 is approved at Texas.
Has anyone have any idea?
My I-140 mailed/delivered at TSC was approved in 20 days (2/2006). Attorney mailed AOS at NSC (delivered on 7/2/07: he said all EB applications has to go to NSC irrespective of the center of I-140 appoval). I donot understand if it is to be transferred to TSC why it should have been invited at NSC-may be receipt #s are generated at NSC and cases are transferred electronically to different centers for handling depending upon work load of the center. NSC may be the monitoring center. Going by discussions here it looks like TSC is quick and fast. Any guesses?
asdcrajnet
02-02 10:16 AM
All the best asdcrajnet.. Both countries are equally good, we have lived in both.. so we know how to adjust..
Few points that you may need to find out before you go..
1) Apply for POI for your kid, you may have already done it. There is a restriction that you need to visit nearby police station every 180 days if your son is in India (because he is a US citizen), try to find out more about that and see what you can do to avoid it (may be get a India visa as opposed to a POI)
If you go to a police station, 100% guarantee they will ask for a bribe or make things difficult for us.
2) The school fees for non-Indian citizens is very high, because your son falls under NRI category, try to find out about it, and if possible share with us too.
Everything is good back home but there are few issues which I see are a problem,
1) Nothing moves ahead without bribery, if we need our stuff to move up the queue, say if it is land registration or getting approval for something - it will not move with bribery and any govt office related work we need to wait a lot and service is bad, unlike here in US there is no bribing and things are so streamlined and good. We can talk about ethics and moral values and not give bribe but then our need will never get fulfilled for years if we decide to go as per queue.
2) If you are in IT, the work hours are horrible, most of IT companies are outside city limits, we will end up going early in the morning and return late night (because hey we need to talk to onsite guys). If an employee leaves at 5:30 or 6 PM it means there he is not working - not sure when this culture would change there. Again most of them work on saturdays, so only sunday is a holiday, here in US i can leave work at 5 PM or 5:30 and come home and spend time with family.
3) Commute is very tough back home - too much traffic than what the roads can handle, there is traffic in US too but it is decent traffic, everyone follows rules and lane sense is there. Back home it is really horrible.
For your PD you have waited for a long time, I would suggest you wait for 1-2 more years and give it a try. We can always go back to India no one is going to stop us, but the return is not very easy. Nowadays h1b approvals and stamping has become a nightmare.
All the best in whatever decision you make. Everything is for good :)
My son Has the PIO card. The rule is we have to register with "Foreigner Registration Office" if he stays for more than 6 months. So I got to do that only once. I think there is some procedure when he turns 18. My son will be studying in a Private school. The fees are the same.
We got to be a Roman in Rome. If we have to bribe a little to get things done, I will do it. I am not there to change India. But I would really try to implement something what I learnt in US. I would never throw garbage in the streets(Preach others not to do it). Be kind to all people.
I lived in India for 23 years and in US for 11 years. I am used to both systems. I love the freedom of expression in US. Other than that I like the Parks and Nature in US. In India it is only reserved for the rich. Other than that both are fine with me. One big advantage in India is the extended family. I love lot of people.
I personally believe I can do more philanthropic deeds in India, because in US I have no time and it is hard for me to learn the system and help someone. Somehow. I cannot connect with the people over here(Its just me). All I do here is if something catastrophic happens, I go to Red cross website and donate some. I don't get the satisfaction in just donating the money. I will be happy if I could participate in changing the lives of a few.
Few points that you may need to find out before you go..
1) Apply for POI for your kid, you may have already done it. There is a restriction that you need to visit nearby police station every 180 days if your son is in India (because he is a US citizen), try to find out more about that and see what you can do to avoid it (may be get a India visa as opposed to a POI)
If you go to a police station, 100% guarantee they will ask for a bribe or make things difficult for us.
2) The school fees for non-Indian citizens is very high, because your son falls under NRI category, try to find out about it, and if possible share with us too.
Everything is good back home but there are few issues which I see are a problem,
1) Nothing moves ahead without bribery, if we need our stuff to move up the queue, say if it is land registration or getting approval for something - it will not move with bribery and any govt office related work we need to wait a lot and service is bad, unlike here in US there is no bribing and things are so streamlined and good. We can talk about ethics and moral values and not give bribe but then our need will never get fulfilled for years if we decide to go as per queue.
2) If you are in IT, the work hours are horrible, most of IT companies are outside city limits, we will end up going early in the morning and return late night (because hey we need to talk to onsite guys). If an employee leaves at 5:30 or 6 PM it means there he is not working - not sure when this culture would change there. Again most of them work on saturdays, so only sunday is a holiday, here in US i can leave work at 5 PM or 5:30 and come home and spend time with family.
3) Commute is very tough back home - too much traffic than what the roads can handle, there is traffic in US too but it is decent traffic, everyone follows rules and lane sense is there. Back home it is really horrible.
For your PD you have waited for a long time, I would suggest you wait for 1-2 more years and give it a try. We can always go back to India no one is going to stop us, but the return is not very easy. Nowadays h1b approvals and stamping has become a nightmare.
All the best in whatever decision you make. Everything is for good :)
My son Has the PIO card. The rule is we have to register with "Foreigner Registration Office" if he stays for more than 6 months. So I got to do that only once. I think there is some procedure when he turns 18. My son will be studying in a Private school. The fees are the same.
We got to be a Roman in Rome. If we have to bribe a little to get things done, I will do it. I am not there to change India. But I would really try to implement something what I learnt in US. I would never throw garbage in the streets(Preach others not to do it). Be kind to all people.
I lived in India for 23 years and in US for 11 years. I am used to both systems. I love the freedom of expression in US. Other than that I like the Parks and Nature in US. In India it is only reserved for the rich. Other than that both are fine with me. One big advantage in India is the extended family. I love lot of people.
I personally believe I can do more philanthropic deeds in India, because in US I have no time and it is hard for me to learn the system and help someone. Somehow. I cannot connect with the people over here(Its just me). All I do here is if something catastrophic happens, I go to Red cross website and donate some. I don't get the satisfaction in just donating the money. I will be happy if I could participate in changing the lives of a few.
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