chanduv23
07-08 03:04 PM
The exchange between Chanduv and Desi3933 has been a refreshingly objective discussion and is a welcome change from the typical hyper-reactionary posts one sees more frequently in this forum.
One of the features of the fight for EB immigration reforms we all need to be cognizant of is - that most (99%) of the members are in this fight to solve an immediate personal problem (visa situation) in a timely manner - most of us are not in it because we believe it to be a cause larger than us and a cause that demands personal sacrifice - and hence the lack of collective passion (lukewarm responses to IV sponsored drives, donation efforts etc.)
While - many have tried to compare this cause to India's independence struggle or Gandhiji's movement in South Africa - but the fundamental difference is that in both these struggles - people who led the struggles led it at a personal cost (Gandhiji willingly gave away a lucrative career to take up the struggle and so did Nehru; Netaji Bose was a Civil Services Officer and gave it up) - even the vast majority of revolutionaries (Bhagat Singh et al) were college educated professionals who could easily have had nice careers in British India.........and therein lies the fundamental difference......not one of us would willingly give up what we have for this struggle - we are in it because we are stuck in a system and want some resolution.......as soon as our particular situation gets resolved...we move on....(maybe there are a few exceptions and hats off to these folks).........and hence Desi - the answer to your question why H1 does not care for F1 and EAD does not care for H1 and so on.......it is not a collective cause - it is just a collection of individual causes - thats all - we would be fooling ourselves if we had some other grandiose visions - calling this group a cause would be the same as calling passengers on a bus one group - they are in the same bus simply because they share a part of their journey - thats it
Well said. healthy discussions help introspect ourselves. In day to day life we seldom see people trying to be wise and good. At workplaces, there is no healthy discussion - all people do is to watch out their backs and talk accordingly - which leads to false perspectives. These days when we give a good advice to friends or someone they may not percieve it in a good way with a "stop preaching me - go help yourself" attitude.
One of the features of the fight for EB immigration reforms we all need to be cognizant of is - that most (99%) of the members are in this fight to solve an immediate personal problem (visa situation) in a timely manner - most of us are not in it because we believe it to be a cause larger than us and a cause that demands personal sacrifice - and hence the lack of collective passion (lukewarm responses to IV sponsored drives, donation efforts etc.)
While - many have tried to compare this cause to India's independence struggle or Gandhiji's movement in South Africa - but the fundamental difference is that in both these struggles - people who led the struggles led it at a personal cost (Gandhiji willingly gave away a lucrative career to take up the struggle and so did Nehru; Netaji Bose was a Civil Services Officer and gave it up) - even the vast majority of revolutionaries (Bhagat Singh et al) were college educated professionals who could easily have had nice careers in British India.........and therein lies the fundamental difference......not one of us would willingly give up what we have for this struggle - we are in it because we are stuck in a system and want some resolution.......as soon as our particular situation gets resolved...we move on....(maybe there are a few exceptions and hats off to these folks).........and hence Desi - the answer to your question why H1 does not care for F1 and EAD does not care for H1 and so on.......it is not a collective cause - it is just a collection of individual causes - thats all - we would be fooling ourselves if we had some other grandiose visions - calling this group a cause would be the same as calling passengers on a bus one group - they are in the same bus simply because they share a part of their journey - thats it
Well said. healthy discussions help introspect ourselves. In day to day life we seldom see people trying to be wise and good. At workplaces, there is no healthy discussion - all people do is to watch out their backs and talk accordingly - which leads to false perspectives. These days when we give a good advice to friends or someone they may not percieve it in a good way with a "stop preaching me - go help yourself" attitude.
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HumHongeKamiyab
12-13 03:03 PM
Do we have anyone here who opened a SR for FP and has received FP notice ? Does it really help if you open SR for FP?
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zeta7
06-22 01:36 PM
Hey all,
I completed my landing in Toronto some 4 weeks ago. My pertinent details:
-No valid H1B stamp in passport
-485 was filed
-Planned on using AP to return
The risk at the time (since there was no clear consensus here) was returning to the US using AP with a Canadian Immigrant visa stamp in my passport. I should point out that my passport was literally a year old, and the Canadian visa was bang in the middle pages; it popped out as soon as the passport was flipped open. It couldn't be missed.
Toronto immigration was smooth. The only comment the officer made was that I had only a week left before my Canadian visa was due to expire, and she was surprised I had waited till the last minute (I suspect she'll be seeing quite a few more cases like this soon though!). I provided a Canadian address to receive my PR card over there.
I spent two days only in Canada. I decided to travel across the Atlantic and meet up with the family since I was leaving the U.S. anyways. Plus I figured on returning, if I was asked what the purpose of my travel was, I could honestly say "visiting family" as opposed to beating about the bush about the Canadian PR.
I returned 2 weeks later to NY-JFK. At the immigration counter I was asked to go to a separate desk to have my AP paperwork done. The Officer there asked me what my area of employment was, which I responded to. I was then asked to wait. 20-30 minutes later I was called again and my passport and AP documents were returned. No other questions were asked.
I was extremely paranoid about the whole thing, but there were literally no issues. Of course luck plays a big part, so it's up to you to roll the dice; chances of problems arising seem low though.
It's been almost 4 weeks and I still haven't received the Canadian PR card; if anyone else has an idea of how long it takes, I'd appreciate it if they could apprise me. Also I'm under the impression that since I'm not earning any income in Canada, there is no tax paperwork to be filed there. Is this correct?
I completed my landing in Toronto some 4 weeks ago. My pertinent details:
-No valid H1B stamp in passport
-485 was filed
-Planned on using AP to return
The risk at the time (since there was no clear consensus here) was returning to the US using AP with a Canadian Immigrant visa stamp in my passport. I should point out that my passport was literally a year old, and the Canadian visa was bang in the middle pages; it popped out as soon as the passport was flipped open. It couldn't be missed.
Toronto immigration was smooth. The only comment the officer made was that I had only a week left before my Canadian visa was due to expire, and she was surprised I had waited till the last minute (I suspect she'll be seeing quite a few more cases like this soon though!). I provided a Canadian address to receive my PR card over there.
I spent two days only in Canada. I decided to travel across the Atlantic and meet up with the family since I was leaving the U.S. anyways. Plus I figured on returning, if I was asked what the purpose of my travel was, I could honestly say "visiting family" as opposed to beating about the bush about the Canadian PR.
I returned 2 weeks later to NY-JFK. At the immigration counter I was asked to go to a separate desk to have my AP paperwork done. The Officer there asked me what my area of employment was, which I responded to. I was then asked to wait. 20-30 minutes later I was called again and my passport and AP documents were returned. No other questions were asked.
I was extremely paranoid about the whole thing, but there were literally no issues. Of course luck plays a big part, so it's up to you to roll the dice; chances of problems arising seem low though.
It's been almost 4 weeks and I still haven't received the Canadian PR card; if anyone else has an idea of how long it takes, I'd appreciate it if they could apprise me. Also I'm under the impression that since I'm not earning any income in Canada, there is no tax paperwork to be filed there. Is this correct?
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unitednations
03-08 03:17 PM
I agree that legislators are very aware of the difference between the H1b issue and the green card issue. Yesterday on CNBC, Larry Kudlow interviewed Sen. Grassley from Iowa on this topic. When Larry was asking about these workers contributing to society, buying homes, starting companies etc, Sen. Grassley told him he was mixing up two separate issues. Basically he only wanted to talk about the H1b issue.
The sad truth is these guys(like Sen. Grassley) are anti immigrant period(they give you all the blabber about I am 3 generations separated from immigrants etc. but that is quite simply them satisfying their conscience/the public conscience on this issue, I always wish the interviewer is an American indeginous Indian), and instead of saying so openly, they combine the issues when convenient and separate them out when not so. I agree with you that it is not because they are not aware. Right now their focus is on stomping out fraud, he mentioned cases of people coming on H1b and running laundromats, or working in different locations to what they are certified(ouch). The new quota that opens up on Apr. 1 will indeed be a watershed. I am expecting really restrictive and nasty legislation in time to greet this. I truly hope for very few applications, so the Hon. Sen. understands that this is a demand driven issue for the most part and fraud where it exists can be addressed but not with blanket legislation which effects can be unintended.
Nonetheless this issue of Country caps has become so draconian that if indeed the US changes its policy and institutes country caps on H1bs as your posting suggests they might in the end, then we will have things go in a certain direction.......protectionist, and there will doubtless be backlash. As it stands the current insensible policy is such that people come on H1b, settle into a job, have their US citizen kids, accumulate enough social security credits, savings etc and then facing an inordinate wait, perhaps even have to leave, what do you think the result is going to be? Well, the return to India where US employers given their US experience/education are more comfortable hiring them hence more outsourcing, then their US citizen Kids return for Gov't aid/loans to college, then they sponsor their parents to come in and receive social security and medicare etc. while their working contributions and taxes would have accrued to another country. Really? Does that sound like good policy?
If the US chooses to Cap Indian H1bs fine, let it be, however continuing such policy only leads to and effectual ban on EB green cards for Indians.
Very well written. I can tell you through my observations of living in this society for 35 years:
1) People leaving because of long wait is a losing argument. Available information doesn't back it up. We have had severe retrogression since 2005 (h-1b quota cases have finished in matter of days)
2)USA is destination of choice. 9 million people file through greencard lottery for 50,000 slots and the main populated countries aren't even eligible to file (ie., India, China, Pakistan, Canada, etc.)
3) Call it what it is: Employment base immigration is least impacted. It is the only class of immigrants who are allowed to work/live in USA while they wait for greencard. Just about every other class has to wait outside until their number is called. This is number one impediment to EB grievances.
4) Stating that one is paying taxes, etc., is also losing argument. You are comparing yourself to the people who are here unlawful. Paying taxes isn't some virtue, it is the law.
5) Country quotas is fundamental to US Immigration. Getting rid of it for one class; ie employment base without looking at the whole thing is waste of time (ie., lottery, family base, etc.).
Now I don't want to get people upset but let's look at some things that have happened since 2005:
There was considerable debate on immigration.com of how the country quotas work and spillover of visas. Depending on how you read the law you would keep coming up with different conclusions. One way was to look at it as hard cap of 7% across all 140,000 visas that is 10,000 or so and it didn't matter about eb1,eb2, eb3. Any unused visas from ROW in EB1 would not go to india but rather flow down to eb2 row and then eb3 row. That s unused would go vertical instead of horizontal.
In uscis fiscal year 2004 eb3 went unavailable in summer of 2005. Statistics showed that India went well over their 7% limit.
In USCIS fiscal year 2005 we had severe retrogression for India. Visa bulletin states that spillover will be vertical instead of horizontal. Statistics showed that India only received 10,500 visas
Now, fiscal year 2006 . We have slow movement in visa dates; it appears that they are going vertical with spillover. However, in July 2007 they make it current for everyone and India goes over the 7% limit.
Fiscal year 2007 it appears from visa bulletin that they are going to go horizontal instead of vertical. No statistics yet of how much went to India.
Therefore; department of state has changed policy, interpretation without law change. Talk to many lawyers and they will tell you that spillover is supposed to happen vertical instead of horizontal. indian nationals have been benefitted greatly by department of state changing it on their whim. You don't see many people from ROW on these boards bellyaching about this; or contacting senators, or threatening lawsuits do you?
This is something to think about? As people keep highlighting this issue and if they continually point it out to lawmakers and someone from ROW gets the birght idea to challenge department of state then it will make it worse for India. I don't foresee any change whatsoever in country quota limits; mainly because it is fundamental to immigration and fundamental things don't change very easily.
The sad truth is these guys(like Sen. Grassley) are anti immigrant period(they give you all the blabber about I am 3 generations separated from immigrants etc. but that is quite simply them satisfying their conscience/the public conscience on this issue, I always wish the interviewer is an American indeginous Indian), and instead of saying so openly, they combine the issues when convenient and separate them out when not so. I agree with you that it is not because they are not aware. Right now their focus is on stomping out fraud, he mentioned cases of people coming on H1b and running laundromats, or working in different locations to what they are certified(ouch). The new quota that opens up on Apr. 1 will indeed be a watershed. I am expecting really restrictive and nasty legislation in time to greet this. I truly hope for very few applications, so the Hon. Sen. understands that this is a demand driven issue for the most part and fraud where it exists can be addressed but not with blanket legislation which effects can be unintended.
Nonetheless this issue of Country caps has become so draconian that if indeed the US changes its policy and institutes country caps on H1bs as your posting suggests they might in the end, then we will have things go in a certain direction.......protectionist, and there will doubtless be backlash. As it stands the current insensible policy is such that people come on H1b, settle into a job, have their US citizen kids, accumulate enough social security credits, savings etc and then facing an inordinate wait, perhaps even have to leave, what do you think the result is going to be? Well, the return to India where US employers given their US experience/education are more comfortable hiring them hence more outsourcing, then their US citizen Kids return for Gov't aid/loans to college, then they sponsor their parents to come in and receive social security and medicare etc. while their working contributions and taxes would have accrued to another country. Really? Does that sound like good policy?
If the US chooses to Cap Indian H1bs fine, let it be, however continuing such policy only leads to and effectual ban on EB green cards for Indians.
Very well written. I can tell you through my observations of living in this society for 35 years:
1) People leaving because of long wait is a losing argument. Available information doesn't back it up. We have had severe retrogression since 2005 (h-1b quota cases have finished in matter of days)
2)USA is destination of choice. 9 million people file through greencard lottery for 50,000 slots and the main populated countries aren't even eligible to file (ie., India, China, Pakistan, Canada, etc.)
3) Call it what it is: Employment base immigration is least impacted. It is the only class of immigrants who are allowed to work/live in USA while they wait for greencard. Just about every other class has to wait outside until their number is called. This is number one impediment to EB grievances.
4) Stating that one is paying taxes, etc., is also losing argument. You are comparing yourself to the people who are here unlawful. Paying taxes isn't some virtue, it is the law.
5) Country quotas is fundamental to US Immigration. Getting rid of it for one class; ie employment base without looking at the whole thing is waste of time (ie., lottery, family base, etc.).
Now I don't want to get people upset but let's look at some things that have happened since 2005:
There was considerable debate on immigration.com of how the country quotas work and spillover of visas. Depending on how you read the law you would keep coming up with different conclusions. One way was to look at it as hard cap of 7% across all 140,000 visas that is 10,000 or so and it didn't matter about eb1,eb2, eb3. Any unused visas from ROW in EB1 would not go to india but rather flow down to eb2 row and then eb3 row. That s unused would go vertical instead of horizontal.
In uscis fiscal year 2004 eb3 went unavailable in summer of 2005. Statistics showed that India went well over their 7% limit.
In USCIS fiscal year 2005 we had severe retrogression for India. Visa bulletin states that spillover will be vertical instead of horizontal. Statistics showed that India only received 10,500 visas
Now, fiscal year 2006 . We have slow movement in visa dates; it appears that they are going vertical with spillover. However, in July 2007 they make it current for everyone and India goes over the 7% limit.
Fiscal year 2007 it appears from visa bulletin that they are going to go horizontal instead of vertical. No statistics yet of how much went to India.
Therefore; department of state has changed policy, interpretation without law change. Talk to many lawyers and they will tell you that spillover is supposed to happen vertical instead of horizontal. indian nationals have been benefitted greatly by department of state changing it on their whim. You don't see many people from ROW on these boards bellyaching about this; or contacting senators, or threatening lawsuits do you?
This is something to think about? As people keep highlighting this issue and if they continually point it out to lawmakers and someone from ROW gets the birght idea to challenge department of state then it will make it worse for India. I don't foresee any change whatsoever in country quota limits; mainly because it is fundamental to immigration and fundamental things don't change very easily.
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mariner5555
08-13 01:56 PM
My attorney just emailed me, she received receipt notices for 485, EAD and AP for both me and my wife.
My application was received on July 2nd 9:01 AM, if it matters it was signed by R Mickels. Also, there is no LUD change on my I140 application, so I guess LUD changes on I-140 mean nothing.
I have not seen the notices yet so I dont know what the notice dates are.
which center ..am guessing NSC but guys please post the center too
My application was received on July 2nd 9:01 AM, if it matters it was signed by R Mickels. Also, there is no LUD change on my I140 application, so I guess LUD changes on I-140 mean nothing.
I have not seen the notices yet so I dont know what the notice dates are.
which center ..am guessing NSC but guys please post the center too
jsb
11-02 10:58 AM
Even after 180 days, your employer put a withdrawal request with proof of insufficient financial strength to pay you from the period start (within 180 days ) till the withdrawal request date then what will you do? Now it is clearly "un approvable" during "even within 180 days" . Now 180 days passed already? - yes. I-140 is already approved? - No, Employer filed withdrawal ?- yes? Employer shows underlying reason of insufficient finance capacity within 180 days - yes .. Then case closed - Denial - Next.
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Above argument is not fully correct. Someone had posted extracts from the law. Please read that once again, and keep in mind the spirit of the law as well.
Until 180 days: If I-140 is denied or withdrawn, no GC. Note that you are not required to be working for sponsoring employer prior to your getting GC. There should be only an intent on both parties to establish employee/employer relationship upon getting GC
After 180 days: I-140 withdrawl has no effect provided beneficiary (you) has another job offer for the same/similar job. No new I-140 needed, if first I-140 was approvable.
I-140 denied after 180 days: No GC if still with same employer. If new employer (for same/simiar job), new I-140 is needed. If different job new LC and I-140 (keep original PD)
Bottomline is that there has to be at least one I-140 approved at some stage.
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Above argument is not fully correct. Someone had posted extracts from the law. Please read that once again, and keep in mind the spirit of the law as well.
Until 180 days: If I-140 is denied or withdrawn, no GC. Note that you are not required to be working for sponsoring employer prior to your getting GC. There should be only an intent on both parties to establish employee/employer relationship upon getting GC
After 180 days: I-140 withdrawl has no effect provided beneficiary (you) has another job offer for the same/similar job. No new I-140 needed, if first I-140 was approvable.
I-140 denied after 180 days: No GC if still with same employer. If new employer (for same/simiar job), new I-140 is needed. If different job new LC and I-140 (keep original PD)
Bottomline is that there has to be at least one I-140 approved at some stage.
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akhilmahajan
02-09 12:56 PM
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Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE.
GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE.
GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
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xela
02-15 08:07 AM
Call them a lot of us did, when we got moved from one center (receipt notice) to another for processing. You should get a FP notice soon after you talked to them!
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sina
11-18 02:53 PM
Sent the email and received email from John Kerry. I donated $100 this afternoon and still do not have access to the Donor Forum? Is there anything more to get access?
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11-17 06:52 PM
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Zeb
07-26 09:08 AM
but if we take rental, dont they ask why u brought rental?
Some people have entered on rental car with out any problem. Beside they dont care if you will be staying in canada or coming back to USA.
Some people have entered on rental car with out any problem. Beside they dont care if you will be staying in canada or coming back to USA.
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go2roomshare
07-05 01:49 PM
i do not understand the fuss about it. why do we over react to it. Big law firms like FDBL ( fragmon) all said the lawsuit is not winnable no chance , DOS can change VB any time as per federal law. whats the use of all this??
we should find some way through congress, not just fighting USCIS for short term beneifts for EAD/AP's etc.
we should find some way through congress, not just fighting USCIS for short term beneifts for EAD/AP's etc.
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05-23 01:04 PM
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05-05 05:30 PM
You will be current for sure in the Jun visa bulliten. It will be in some where in 2007.
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amdn123
01-24 06:52 PM
Thanks sirinme, my job responsibilities are similar in the new job (i.e. same job code classification). My only concern is whether is it legally necessary to file papers to USCIS under AC21 informing of job change now or wait till visa numbers for me becoem current again.
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11-17 07:16 PM
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humdesi
12-16 06:56 PM
..Having said this, I think I am looking back to go to india after couple more years of stay...
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mirage
03-10 12:54 PM
I will request you 'Not to turn this into a EB-3/Eb-2' fight, as everybody is suffering, we are on this forum itself means all of have an issue...It's just that for some people it could be a wait for another 3-4 years but for others it could be a wait for 20 years....if Congress doesn't make any change to the existing laws...But what people are fearing in this climate if we go and tell the congress that we are in a 20 year wait, instead of doing any good they can harm us more. Now, how much you want to take that risk is the question. In my opinion I don't see that kind of risk, with the kind of things we are asking, but some people see that risk, it's their way of thinking...
Lets not listen to negative people here and instead come up with a plan. Nothing will change unless we act upon it. I have seen these negative comments every time somebody come up with a plan for EB3-I. Unfortunately most of these negative comments are coming from EB2-I people.
Lets come up with action plan for EB3-I and we will send it upto Mr. President. I am sure they will listen to us someday. They are busy not deaf.
Thanks.
Lets not listen to negative people here and instead come up with a plan. Nothing will change unless we act upon it. I have seen these negative comments every time somebody come up with a plan for EB3-I. Unfortunately most of these negative comments are coming from EB2-I people.
Lets come up with action plan for EB3-I and we will send it upto Mr. President. I am sure they will listen to us someday. They are busy not deaf.
Thanks.
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gc28262
08-26 05:08 PM
I filed my I-129 for H1B extension in March, 2008. It is almost 5 months. I haven't got my H1B extension approval yet.
Do any of you experience delay in H1B extension? Is it normal waiting time after July 2007 fiasco?
I am also wondering why Vermont is delaying the processing of H1B though it is not processing I-485s?
Please share your experiences.
Following is my observation from my last H1B extension from Vermont.
You should be concerned if the extension is not approved before the expiry of the current H1B/I-94. Even if you apply months in advance, USCIS won't approve it till you are near your "old I-94" expiry date.
Do any of you experience delay in H1B extension? Is it normal waiting time after July 2007 fiasco?
I am also wondering why Vermont is delaying the processing of H1B though it is not processing I-485s?
Please share your experiences.
Following is my observation from my last H1B extension from Vermont.
You should be concerned if the extension is not approved before the expiry of the current H1B/I-94. Even if you apply months in advance, USCIS won't approve it till you are near your "old I-94" expiry date.
dtekkedil
07-10 05:39 PM
We are starting with San Jose. On July 14th.
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