TheOmbudsman
10-25 11:54 AM
Yes, but the immigration hearings already happened. People already have a clear indication on what the public wants. Lou Dobbs is still out there reminding them. Honestly, I wish us good luck, but I am not sure.
Ombudsman, you forgot one important point however.
If the Dems do win the house, the speaker will be a Dem. and she will set the agenda to be discussed and voted upon. Also the ranking members on the various comittees will also be Dems. Therefore they will make the decisions such as, when and how to discuss these measures in committee, when and with whom to hold congressional hearings(expert testimony), when to go to conference and which representatives to to go to conference, and so on, these things influence the legislative process as much as votes do.
The bottomline is House Republicans had a fair shot at this and decided against any changes, I can't see how them returning is going to solve a thing. Immigration is one of the few issues that the Upper House and the Pres. can agree with a democratic congress on. Issues such as Soc. Security, healthcare etc will certainly end up in gridlock as the republican strategist Ed Rollins points out.
Ombudsman, you forgot one important point however.
If the Dems do win the house, the speaker will be a Dem. and she will set the agenda to be discussed and voted upon. Also the ranking members on the various comittees will also be Dems. Therefore they will make the decisions such as, when and how to discuss these measures in committee, when and with whom to hold congressional hearings(expert testimony), when to go to conference and which representatives to to go to conference, and so on, these things influence the legislative process as much as votes do.
The bottomline is House Republicans had a fair shot at this and decided against any changes, I can't see how them returning is going to solve a thing. Immigration is one of the few issues that the Upper House and the Pres. can agree with a democratic congress on. Issues such as Soc. Security, healthcare etc will certainly end up in gridlock as the republican strategist Ed Rollins points out.
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ckichannagari
02-14 12:22 PM
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delhiguy
07-08 08:47 PM
macaca, This is really good point
There could be 3 reasons , which i could think of
1. The CIR, which was providing amnesty to aroun 12 million illegal residents in the US,so they wanted to keep the legal residents happy.
2.The DOS wanted to force USCIS to finish its backlog, if the dates were current and USCIS would have to accept our applications then they would have to process a lot of EAD/AP and would required a lot of work, They could put the 485 in queue but not AP/EAD. So the only way for USCIS was to process the backlog(At least many legal residents got GCS)
3.USCIS wanted to avoid accepting these applications till July 30, to get more fees( I think this is the least possible reason)
There could be 3 reasons , which i could think of
1. The CIR, which was providing amnesty to aroun 12 million illegal residents in the US,so they wanted to keep the legal residents happy.
2.The DOS wanted to force USCIS to finish its backlog, if the dates were current and USCIS would have to accept our applications then they would have to process a lot of EAD/AP and would required a lot of work, They could put the 485 in queue but not AP/EAD. So the only way for USCIS was to process the backlog(At least many legal residents got GCS)
3.USCIS wanted to avoid accepting these applications till July 30, to get more fees( I think this is the least possible reason)
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franklin
07-08 03:38 PM
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I just heard from our Chinese member. They are getting a huge response for this 14th July demonstration. We need more awareness about this event among our members. Please spread the word.
The place and time is:
Location: City Hall
200 E Santa Clara St
San Jose
When: From Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:00 am to 2:30 pm
Bay Area members - please join the Northern California Bay Area Chapter. Details in sig
I just heard from our Chinese member. They are getting a huge response for this 14th July demonstration. We need more awareness about this event among our members. Please spread the word.
The place and time is:
Location: City Hall
200 E Santa Clara St
San Jose
When: From Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:00 am to 2:30 pm
Bay Area members - please join the Northern California Bay Area Chapter. Details in sig
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newbie2020
05-02 11:37 AM
Here are my predictions
EB3 ROW Dec 06
China: 8 May 03
India: 01 Feb 02
EB2 ROW C
India 08 Mar 04
China 08 Mar 04
EB3 ROW Dec 06
China: 8 May 03
India: 01 Feb 02
EB2 ROW C
India 08 Mar 04
China 08 Mar 04
ramus
07-07 09:27 PM
I am sure we will get more member in DC. We can take a poll and see how many wants to join in DC. IF poll turns out to be large then we can plan.
We will only come to this forum. We are 100 guys ready in DC.
We will only come to this forum. We are 100 guys ready in DC.
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vijjus
05-23 11:26 PM
(disclaimer: Like everyone else here, I am very dissapointed. Hence the negative mood)
I am wondering how we ended up here. We have been doing this campaign for so long, we have now hired a lobbying firm, and we've met, called, emailed and faxed so many senators etc. How come this bill completely ignored, and in fact in some senses, hurt us?
I have seen posts about lawmakers being stupid, out-of-touch etc but I think these posts are mostly facetious. I feel troubled by the fact that in spite of numerous efforts the lawmakers decided to ignore us - and if this was India I would have attributed this to the fact that in us they don't (yet) have a vote bank.
Please take this post in a positive way and as a stimulus for some soul searching - why did we end up in this situation?
I am wondering how we ended up here. We have been doing this campaign for so long, we have now hired a lobbying firm, and we've met, called, emailed and faxed so many senators etc. How come this bill completely ignored, and in fact in some senses, hurt us?
I have seen posts about lawmakers being stupid, out-of-touch etc but I think these posts are mostly facetious. I feel troubled by the fact that in spite of numerous efforts the lawmakers decided to ignore us - and if this was India I would have attributed this to the fact that in us they don't (yet) have a vote bank.
Please take this post in a positive way and as a stimulus for some soul searching - why did we end up in this situation?
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gjoe
12-17 10:16 AM
I opened a SR for non receipt of my FP notice, on 30Oct2007. I got a reply from USCIS exactly after 45 days ( very prompt) notifying me that " my FP has not yet expired or my FP is not yet cleared". Certainly this looks like a canned reply from USCIS which was sent even without looking at my file. I guess they should be more transparent in their process than just sending plain lies.
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kshitijnt
05-09 07:15 PM
Western govts. understand only one language, that is lawsuits. Everything else is taken as sucking up to them and weakness. The Indian community in UK has been successful by means of lawsuits. Although I am a big fan and supporter of IV, I think the option of taking lawsuit off the table has hurt us more than it has helped us. Why are we paying $25K for FOIA when no information has come out of it? Instead we should file a grand lawsuit? All information we are expecting from FOIA would be forced to be shared in lawsuit anyway.
I know of one such lawsuit by Mr Rajeev Khanna in 2003, although the lawsuit failed, the speed of 485 processing increased sharply soon after. We have to make bold choices as a community.
The worldwide message of Obama administration being blamed of discrimination from a president whose community was discriminated against is not something white house would be proud of.
Although I do not expect justice in american justice system, at the very least we can send a strong message across to the larger Indian community that would be watching worldwide.
The message is getting stronger in India that Obama administration is anti India for no fault of India and we can make an all out effort using media, lawsuit and everything else in our means to settle the issue once for all.
I know of one such lawsuit by Mr Rajeev Khanna in 2003, although the lawsuit failed, the speed of 485 processing increased sharply soon after. We have to make bold choices as a community.
The worldwide message of Obama administration being blamed of discrimination from a president whose community was discriminated against is not something white house would be proud of.
Although I do not expect justice in american justice system, at the very least we can send a strong message across to the larger Indian community that would be watching worldwide.
The message is getting stronger in India that Obama administration is anti India for no fault of India and we can make an all out effort using media, lawsuit and everything else in our means to settle the issue once for all.
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pappu
07-21 10:08 AM
IV will have more money to do advocacy events like the one that just happened. More media spending, more coverage.
This is correct. You not only need funds but also lot of warm sweaty bodies. !!
We need many people working everyday continuously over a period of time. It cannot be --"As and when I get time, i will try. Or I am already contributing by posting ideas on the forum. Or I am EB2 and my date will be current soon so I do not really care, I am not desperate for green card so do not bother me by contacting me. Or IV is for EB2 and I am EB3. Or IV is for Indians and I am ROW." Stop thinking IV just a forum like other forums of lawyers or trackers where the aim is to make money from the long wait and run a business. Here we want to fix the problem so that we no longer need Immigration Voice and all of us can move on in our lives and professional careers.
There have been times when we evaluated our decision of continuing this work after hearing lot of negative comments from our community or seeing lack of participation. A recent proof is the recent funding drive for advocacy day and our thousands of phone calls to members asking them to come to DC. It is not easy to organize any event and it takes lot of planning and funds. None of the members who used to write negative posts after every visa bulletin urging IV to do an event in DC came to DC event or even contributed. Many in the IV team are still involved with this effort even after getting their greencards only to succeed in what we all started out to do together. The commitment needs to be there so that many people can help out even during the day time. One option is for members to have their homemaker spouses volunteer for IV work. We have so many ideas we can work on if there are more sincere people who commit to helping out. Funds are also important. AILA has a budget of 13 million dollars/yr and they can do a lot in terms of advocacy, filing lawsuits, talking with offices on regular basis, organizing conferences each year where lawyers pay to hear USCIS officials, media outreach, meeting other organizations etc etc . They have people in DC to go and meet offices on daily basis. Likewise anti-immigrants too have millions of dollar budgets. You do not see their forums filled with posts of infighting. suspicion and baseless arguments that we have. Many of our posts do not even project us as well educated and mature individuals. We can blame whoever we want-- employers, government, lawyers, karma.... but the real reason why this retrogression problem still exists is because all of us in the community have allowed it to exist. Only we are responsible for the success and failure of our efforts. Nothing is impossible if we have strength and resolve to advocate our issues.
This is correct. You not only need funds but also lot of warm sweaty bodies. !!
We need many people working everyday continuously over a period of time. It cannot be --"As and when I get time, i will try. Or I am already contributing by posting ideas on the forum. Or I am EB2 and my date will be current soon so I do not really care, I am not desperate for green card so do not bother me by contacting me. Or IV is for EB2 and I am EB3. Or IV is for Indians and I am ROW." Stop thinking IV just a forum like other forums of lawyers or trackers where the aim is to make money from the long wait and run a business. Here we want to fix the problem so that we no longer need Immigration Voice and all of us can move on in our lives and professional careers.
There have been times when we evaluated our decision of continuing this work after hearing lot of negative comments from our community or seeing lack of participation. A recent proof is the recent funding drive for advocacy day and our thousands of phone calls to members asking them to come to DC. It is not easy to organize any event and it takes lot of planning and funds. None of the members who used to write negative posts after every visa bulletin urging IV to do an event in DC came to DC event or even contributed. Many in the IV team are still involved with this effort even after getting their greencards only to succeed in what we all started out to do together. The commitment needs to be there so that many people can help out even during the day time. One option is for members to have their homemaker spouses volunteer for IV work. We have so many ideas we can work on if there are more sincere people who commit to helping out. Funds are also important. AILA has a budget of 13 million dollars/yr and they can do a lot in terms of advocacy, filing lawsuits, talking with offices on regular basis, organizing conferences each year where lawyers pay to hear USCIS officials, media outreach, meeting other organizations etc etc . They have people in DC to go and meet offices on daily basis. Likewise anti-immigrants too have millions of dollar budgets. You do not see their forums filled with posts of infighting. suspicion and baseless arguments that we have. Many of our posts do not even project us as well educated and mature individuals. We can blame whoever we want-- employers, government, lawyers, karma.... but the real reason why this retrogression problem still exists is because all of us in the community have allowed it to exist. Only we are responsible for the success and failure of our efforts. Nothing is impossible if we have strength and resolve to advocate our issues.
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BharatPremi
05-20 12:28 AM
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16090
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zoooom
07-19 08:50 PM
$100 from me.
Rahul :)
Thanks!!
Rahul :)
Thanks!!
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Lasantha
02-05 10:30 AM
I only took Bank Statements. In my case they did not even ask to see those.
As proof of funds for landing, do we need to carry cashiers-checks etc or just a plain printout of bank-statement (INGDirect) is good enough?
Thanks.
As proof of funds for landing, do we need to carry cashiers-checks etc or just a plain printout of bank-statement (INGDirect) is good enough?
Thanks.
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glus
07-02 09:43 AM
Fed-Ex sent today july 2nd.:)
Note: Iam not sure if anyone should have posted on jun 30 to be delivered on july 2nd. But again, i don't know.:mad:
REceived date is important, not the mailed date. So if one sent on jun 30 that's ok.
Note: Iam not sure if anyone should have posted on jun 30 to be delivered on july 2nd. But again, i don't know.:mad:
REceived date is important, not the mailed date. So if one sent on jun 30 that's ok.
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hmehta
07-20 12:45 AM
I pledge to contribute $100.
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rc0878
08-13 02:01 PM
Sent to NSC (Lincoln, Nebraska) ...reached on July20th. No action yet.
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sanhari
08-09 09:12 AM
Did anyone hear anything from their local congressman or USCIS on the visa spillover usage? I am planning to send in more requests this week, let's see...
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sam2006
07-20 03:57 PM
I am willing to Contribute $150 for Aman.
thank you venkat
thank you venkat
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bomber
07-20 12:22 PM
There are still many out there who are happily enjoying the fruits of Aman's and other core members' hard work without even knowing what they did for us. For them it's just something that happened on its own. I joined in June and became a contributing member when I came to know the efforts being put in by core. I know for some people shelling out $100 is a big deal, particularly AFTER the victory in this first fight, but guys, think if you were made to wait for 3-4 more years before you were allowed to apply. Your spouses can work now and make more money for your household.
I pledge another $200 for IV once my wife starts working - This is apart from regular contributions that I will make.
I pledge another $200 for IV once my wife starts working - This is apart from regular contributions that I will make.
sen_raju
07-13 12:54 AM
http://www.topix.net/content/trb/2007/07/quest-for-green-cards-leads-to-sweet-smelling-protest
nc14
09-10 07:09 PM
rahulp,
What has been your contribution so far (not just monetary but otherwise?). Why don't you lead an effort and be the one which shows some leadership so that we all EB3's can follow you?
I guess you have an EAD and AP but instead of going into the details of what role IV played to get us to that stage you can just spit BS over here.
I am sure you have read Pappu's post a few times, next time just see what his category is.
Thanks but no thanks for your 2 cents, which are worthless because that is all you have to offer.
In my opinion, we need to have separate efforts for EB3 (now that EB3 I and EB3 ROW are in the same boat). If we have someone with leadership qualities and wants to use some social networking site for discussing EB3 issues and identifying approaches to solve the EB3 issues, there will be many EB3 folks willing to support the effort. Immivoice is just useless portal, it doesn't have open forums and the core folks here don't care for EB3. In fact, their lobbying efforts were behind USCIS changing the rule for spilling over the unused visa numbers to EB2 first. Just my 2 cents.
What has been your contribution so far (not just monetary but otherwise?). Why don't you lead an effort and be the one which shows some leadership so that we all EB3's can follow you?
I guess you have an EAD and AP but instead of going into the details of what role IV played to get us to that stage you can just spit BS over here.
I am sure you have read Pappu's post a few times, next time just see what his category is.
Thanks but no thanks for your 2 cents, which are worthless because that is all you have to offer.
In my opinion, we need to have separate efforts for EB3 (now that EB3 I and EB3 ROW are in the same boat). If we have someone with leadership qualities and wants to use some social networking site for discussing EB3 issues and identifying approaches to solve the EB3 issues, there will be many EB3 folks willing to support the effort. Immivoice is just useless portal, it doesn't have open forums and the core folks here don't care for EB3. In fact, their lobbying efforts were behind USCIS changing the rule for spilling over the unused visa numbers to EB2 first. Just my 2 cents.
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